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Finis Terrae: Exploring the Wilds of Southern Patagonia

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Andrea Sjoreen Feb 02, 2016 at 04:06 PM

Boots: Are regular hiking boots good enough for this trip, or do you really need seriously waterproof boots?
Linda Norby Feb 02, 2016 at 04:56 PM

My hiking boots were fine.
Mariann Holstein Feb 02, 2016 at 05:33 PM

We sprayed our boots and sneakers with water proofing shoe spray.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 09:55 AM

Hi Andrea - I would definitely recommend waterproofed boots for this reason. You really never know about the weather for your session. In the Patagonia region the weather could change from nice and mild to windy and rainy in a matter of minutes! We just came back from our adventure yesterday! We got to go disembark at Cape Horn (weather conditions only permit dismemberments about 50% of the time). It rained for about half the trek there and with the wind you might not get away with regular hiking boots. Same comment for the other equipment. Waterproof pants jacket and hat or hood and gloves is a must!
Mariann Holstein Feb 05, 2016 at 12:20 PM

Warren, great, up to date information. We're trying to be certain our luggage is not overweight for the 33 pound flight. With the dressing like an onion recommendation, did you find yourself bundling up more or peeling down more?
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 04:11 PM

Hi Mariann - confused about your dates
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 04:14 PM

Are uou leaving next week or 2017? What is your first stop
Mariann Holstein Feb 05, 2016 at 04:26 PM

We leave Tuesday, Feb. 9th
Mariann Holstein Feb 05, 2016 at 04:26 PM

We start in Santiago and end in Buenos Aires
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 04:52 PM

Hi Mariann - First of all Santiago and the EccoCamp area are experiencing unusually warm weather due to El Nino. The hotel in Santiago does not have efficient air conditioning so open all windows even during the day! It helps!
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:08 PM

The EccoCamp domes do not have very good ventilation and very good insulation they get very hot during the day if it is sunny out. They will offer to light a fire before you arrive the first night. Turn offer down until you actually check out your dome. Only way to ventilate the room is to keep front door open until you go to bed.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:26 PM

As far as dressing for the hikes. I suggest three layers of very lightweight long underwear. The dry fit kind. They hold in warmth and breathe. Bring a pair of jeans and lightweight hiking pants (for Ecco Camp hikes).
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:45 PM

Second day of EccoCamp hike wear outer layer that is very wind resistant. While it may be warm one of the hikes around the lake is ALWAYS VERY WINDY!! When we were there the wind nearly blew us over!
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:51 PM

Consider bringing a day pack for either taking off layers or putting them on. That being said it may not be convenient to take on or off underwear layers. Maybe a fleece and windbreaker. For the boat part of the journey waterproof pants are a MUST!
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:54 PM

You will want to wear hiking boots with GOOD TREAD during the day for the Patagonia adventure.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 05:57 PM

You will want a pair og trekking poles. Some of the paths have roots, rocks and other obstacles. Since they are wet most of the time they get VERY SLIPPERY!
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 06:01 PM

On the boat part of the tfip consider you will have a life vest on dufing Magellenic Island and Cape Horn. Thete is no room to store them on the island.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 06:06 PM

Also consider that you will get warm during the hikes so again you may want tp remove a layer but be aware there may not be any room or privacy to do that. You will learn how many layers are comfortable for you after the first day or so.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 06:08 PM

You are about to undertake a great adventure. Have a great time!
Mariann Holstein Feb 05, 2016 at 07:33 PM

Thanks, Warren, for all your information. We are definitely planning on a great trip.
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 10:14 PM

Other advisories: Public restrooms are often out of toilet paper, if you like using a washcloth bring your own, and take a steak knife (in checked baggage)!


Keith Daum Feb 02, 2016 at 03:41 PM

Does anybody have experience with how firmly they enforce the 33 pound bag weight limit on the internal flights? And what is the cost for over 33 pounds?
Andrea Sjoreen Feb 02, 2016 at 04:05 PM

Look at this website:
Andrea Sjoreen Feb 02, 2016 at 04:05 PM

http://ww1.aerolineas.com.ar/arg/main.asp?idSitio=AU&idPagina=53&idIdioma=en
Keith Daum Feb 02, 2016 at 06:28 PM

Thanks. Very useful
Warren Metzger Feb 05, 2016 at 10:17 AM

Hi Keith – We just returned from our adventure. I am not really sure that the Aerolineas Argentinas website is really up-to-date. No one in our group of 20 were charged for being overweight in checked luggage. We individually went to the counter so we could see the process. Our luggage were under 33lbs BUT both weighed 14.5kg according to their scale even though they were several pounds apart when we weighed them! BUT if they DO start to enforce the overweight policy the cost for overweight luggage is minimal. For example, if your bag weighs from 1 to 5 kgs (2.2 to 11lbs) over the allowance the charge is 100 Argentinian pesos which is about $7.50. So don’t lose sleep over it!


Susan Sidel Jan 10, 2016 at 05:50 PM

My husband, Jim, and I are on the Feb. 4 trip, but to ensure our arrival on time from potentially snowy Boston, we are arriving in Buenos Aires a day early. Anyone else doing that? Thank you to those who provided advice abut the reciprocity fee process.
Warren Metzger Jan 10, 2016 at 06:47 PM

Hi Susan, We are on the January 21 tour and have to go through Atlanta which can always throw a monkey wrench in your plans. As a rule my wife Mary and I always plan on arriving a day early whenever we are meeting up with a cruise or land tour. Too many horror stories out there of people having to play catch up. Some never make it especially if it is a cruise! And yeah reciprocity is a bit tricky.


Mariann Holstein Dec 29, 2015 at 01:56 PM

We are scheduled for the February 9th trip. Anyone else? We are flying Delta St. Louis to Atlanta & Atlanta to Santiago. Haven't done the reciprocity fee yet, but perhaps shouldn't delay too long in case of a problem.
Heather Long Jan 31, 2016 at 01:09 AM

We are on the Feb 9th trip. We are from Adelaide, South Australia and willl be arriving in Santiago on 8th Feb.


Bill Buss Dec 17, 2015 at 12:55 AM

Bill Buss:
Wife Laurie and I are scheduled on the Jan. 7 trip. We're from Cleveland and will be flying through Houston on the 6th, so we'll see the rest of you in BA. Looking forward to it! Had no problem with our Reciprocity Fee, though our receipt doesn't look exactly like the book's; I trust the bar code is what's important. Bill Buss


Sarah Ramsey Dec 11, 2015 at 10:09 AM

We did succeed in getting our Reciprocity fee paid using Safari. Not sure what the problem was, but we tried a different credit card, which worked. Thanks for your comments. Sarah


Joseph Eschenbacher Dec 11, 2015 at 10:03 AM

We are on the Finis Terrae tour starting January 21, 2016, after completing the Rapa Nui tour. We could not get the Argentina registration via Safari, but used Firefox with no problem.
Joe and Sue Eschenbacher (from Minnesota)
Warren Metzger Jan 10, 2016 at 06:38 PM

Hi Joe and Sue - we are also on the January 21, 2016 tour! We are from Wiscosnin and connect in Atlanta on Delta 101 to Buenos Aires. Are you also connecting through Atlanta? We are taking off Jauary 20.


Richard Ebright Dec 02, 2015 at 12:20 PM

Thanks for the trip on the gloves Kathryn and Linda. It may be tough to find a pair that are waterproof and still allow enough freedom of movement to manipulate my camera. Any suggestions? My wife and I have both completed our Argentina Reciprocity Fee process. We both did so on Macintosh computers. I used Firefox and MrsE used Safari. It's a little confusing; Road Scholar's instructions don't exactly match the website. It looks like several of us will be on Delta 101 out of Atlanta on the 7th. Looking forward to meeting all of you.

Dick/Carole Ebright
Roosevelt, Utah
debright_2000@yahoo.com


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