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Premium Email Subscriber Nov 06, 2014 at 10:19 AM

January 26-February 9 (2015)--anyone else going then?
Judy Johanson Nov 17, 2014 at 05:17 PM

Yes three of us from Chicago are going....
Cheryl Morasch Dec 01, 2014 at 05:00 PM

Two from Alberta, Canada on Jan 26-Feb 9
Premium Email Subscriber Dec 02, 2014 at 08:15 AM

Wonderful! I'm from the Washington DC area and somehow got named "Premium" but my actual name is Barbara. Looking forward to meeting you all.

Paul Kardon Oct 16, 2014 at 03:42 PM

Going on Oct. 20-Nov3 Trip
Chris and Paul Kardon. Anyone else?

Carolyn Oct 11, 2014 at 04:35 PM

FYI, content manager, most of the hotel links are broken. I'm looking at this for 2015. An aside: I've previously traveled in Tanzania and Botswana and have to say that seeing African wildlife in person is an amazing experience. Happy tralis to all of you.

Judy Macinness Aug 22, 2014 at 03:52 PM

I'm looking to connect with other travelers on the Sept 22-Oct 6 trip. I'm flying in one day anyone else??
Hugh Davies Aug 24, 2014 at 06:51 PM

We are on the Sept 22 trip, flying out of Washington-Dulles. We are not going a day early.
Susan Bradley Aug 25, 2014 at 09:44 AM

English books, maybe about nature, animals, universal themes. I also saw theme books, I.e. Lined in the dollar store that would be useful
Judy Macinness Aug 28, 2014 at 09:38 AM

Martha, my email address is Thanks for offering to share clothing advice!

Betsy Noyce Aug 15, 2014 at 10:20 PM

Jeff here. These are some thoughts, kind of long, that might be helpful for those of you taking this fantastic trip:
1. Paul K is a great guide
2. Don’t plan on going out of your hotel in Nairobi unless it is as a group
3. You really don’t need Tanzanian or Kenyan money-dollars are accepted-but do take new, small bills. And consider more than RS suggests-$4-500 would not be out of line if you are buying drinks nightly, plan on some tipping and donations and plan to buy souvenirs. There is some fun, however, to paying 7000 shillings for a beer.
4.You do not need toilet paper or soap for the hotels, but there are some rest stops where a packet of Kleenex would be very handy. Some of the rest stops are squat toilets-you might practice before you leave!
5. Tusker beer is pretty good.
6. Take a lens cleaning kit with you.
7.The Maasai village is very interesting, but the craft buying experience warrants a caution. All the women venders have their items out-but no prices are given. You select what you want while your male Maasai warrior guide holds them. At the end of your selections, pressed for time, they then tell you the prices and you are supposed to bargain. Prices are VERY high and it’s difficult to bargain in those circumstances having seen their village. Based on what we saw elsewhere later in the trip, 25% of the original offered price might be about right. We consider our purchases as a donation. Make sure you have sufficient cash with you if you choose to purchase.
8. The Speke Bay native school and village are a difficult experience. The school is great, but the village is daunting, desperate, and very disturbing. There is no sense of village pride or self respect (as in the Maasai village) and it’s unclear that there is any good way of helping or saving them, other than the school.
9.The food is very good-but use your head. It would be best to avoid the offered juices (except apple), fruits that cannot be peeled, salads, boxed lunches with meat or sandwiches that have lettuce, tomato or mayonnaise in them. There is plenty to eat otherwise. GI distress while bouncing around the Serengeti for several hours is not as much fun as it sounds
10.Absolutely take Ciprofloxacin and Loperamide with you-especially Cipro. Seriously.
11.Meat is often not quite up to our American standards. Take only a little from the buffet line to make sure you can eat it. That way food won’t be wasted. You can always get more if you like it.
Martha Moore Aug 16, 2014 at 07:49 AM

Hi Jeff - thanks so much! I have a few questions about clothes to pack and wonder if Betsy went with you
Mary Raynard Aug 16, 2014 at 12:09 PM

jeff - thanks so much for all this very practical advice! It's great to hear from someone who is just recently returned. Thank you!
Michele Brandenburg Aug 16, 2014 at 01:57 PM

We were with Jeff in the July14-28 group. I can't vouch for #5 & Imodium was sufficient to keep us from needing #10. Otherwise agree with Jeff's great tips!. Sure wish someone had warned me about those squat toilets. I knew they exist in parts of the world but no warning that would be part of my African experience.
Martha Moore Aug 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM

Thank you Betsy for the advice about clothing! Really helps.
Mary Raynard Aug 18, 2014 at 03:05 PM

Hi Martha - Can you share the helpful advice about clothing? You can email me at
Judy Macinness Aug 23, 2014 at 03:06 PM

Betsy or Martha or Mary - Will you share advice about clothing with me? I'm going on the Sept 22nd trip. I wonder if light colored jeans would work. Any other tips would be appreciated also.
Susan Bradley Aug 25, 2014 at 09:48 AM

Jeans are fine, but everything gets dusty. I took lightweight gym shirts that dried quickly. Jeans would need to be sent out since they wouldn't dry very fast. Take shoes that you can slip off easily to stand on the vehicle seats.
Betsy Noyce Aug 25, 2014 at 09:55 AM

Hi susan! I am trying to forward to you the White Masai book. Please email me!
Betsy Noyce Aug 25, 2014 at 09:55 AM

Hi susan! I am trying to forward to you the White Masai book. Please email me!
Susan Bradley Aug 25, 2014 at 10:11 AM

I sent a message to Jeff's address. I need to go find the list of names, etx.
Martha Moore Aug 27, 2014 at 11:06 AM

Judy - can you send me your e-mail address? Then I can forward Betsy's clothing adivice.
Mary Raynard Aug 27, 2014 at 12:20 PM

I'd appreciate the advice, too, Martha. my email is

Robert McNamara Aug 13, 2014 at 09:46 PM

We are on the Aug 27- Sep 10 tour, via Amsterdam. A previous post mentioned a
luggage weight limit. I couldn't find any
mention of luggage limits in the info pack? On a previous trip with a lot of
small plane flights we had a 28 lb limit.
Betsy Noyce Aug 15, 2014 at 10:17 PM

Pretty sure it's 33 lbs and listed soemwhere. Definitely use a soft sided duffel/bag-they need to be squeezed into the backs of the vehicles. You really don't need to lug all that stuff anyway-besides cameras, binoculars and a toothbrush. Jeff
Michele Brandenburg Aug 16, 2014 at 02:04 PM

All you will need can fit in under 33 lb carry-on size luggage. If you miss a connection as we did you & the airline will be very glad you have no checked luggage. Laundry service is reasonably priced. We only used it once & it was reliable, too.

Susan Bradley Aug 13, 2014 at 11:55 AM

I went on the July 14-28 trip which was outstanding. I didn't spend over $200 but took about $300 in small bills. We did leave some tips and paid for some souvenirs with dollars. Many souvenir places took credit cards but put a surcharge on use. I didn't buy much.
Michele Brandenburg Sep 02, 2014 at 01:17 PM

Giant surcharge! Just discovered the gift shop at the lunch place our group went to on the last day processed my $20 purchase as a "cash advance". That caused my account to have a $10 "transaction fee"! Luckily when I complained to Visa they took the fee off.

Martha Moore Aug 11, 2014 at 09:40 AM

How much cash do people generally bring? Also do you need a transformer to match US 110 volts? thanks.
Michele Brandenburg Aug 11, 2014 at 11:50 AM

You need the 3 prong British plug adaptor. No transformer needed for camera, cell phone & iPad. It will tell you what is safe on the charger for your devices.
Betsy Noyce Aug 13, 2014 at 10:24 PM

You need to make sure anything you plug in is a dual voltage unit-110/220V. K and T use 220 volt supplies. And, keep in mind that most places you wil stay do not have 24 hour continuous power available.

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