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Elevation Note
Sagamore is at 1900 feet.

Itinerary for Sep 9 — Sep 12, 2012

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Type: Lodge

Description: Sagamore’s authentic buildings dating from 1897 are situated on a peninsula jutting into pristine and picturesque Sagamore Lake. The Adirondack Forest Preserve surrounds the entire 27-building Sagamore estate owned by the Alfred Vanderbilt family from 1901-1954. A National Historic Landmark, its wood and stone buildings are the vernacular rustic architecture on which many National Park lodges were modeled. Sagamore’s remote location removed from the normal hubbub will allow your full concentration on learning, the camaraderie of the people at hand, the extraordinary beauty of the land, and the history that envelops you.

Contact info:
Sagamore Road
Po Box 40
Raquette Lake, NY 13436 USA
phone: 315-354-5311
web: www.sagamore.org

Room amenities: All rooms are historic, and steps away from views of beautiful Sagamore lake or its bucolic outlet stream. We do not have telephones or televisions in any rooms. Internet access is available in our common Reading Room for those with laptop computers.

Facility amenities: As a guest at Sagamore, you will be accommodated in our historic buildings in (mostly) double occupancy rooms with twin beds and bathrooms, many with footed tubs, in the hallways. Most of our guests are housed in one of our three lodges each sleeping 20. There are no telephones in rooms, no cell service, and no TV so your relaxation is assured. Our chef will carefully prepare buffet meals from which you will make your selections. The buffet is served in our paneled dining room with splendid views of Sagamore Lake. Everyone is called to meals by the bell. One of the highlights of our dining experience is our excellent water. Please do not bring bottled water with you. You may purchase beer and wine to accompany your meal. The dining hall seats 84. During free time many of our guests enjoy our 20 miles of hiking trails, playing giant lawn games, and canoeing. Sagamore also recommends its history-based DVDs. Porch-sitting is also highly recommended. All guests are given a free pass to our award-winning guided tour. We also recommend a cruise aboard the W.W. Durant on Raquette Lake, a trip to the “Smithsonian of the Adirondacks,” the Adirondack Museum, or a visit to the Wild Center, the natural history museum of the Adirondack region. Great Camp Sagamore is located on Sagamore Lake, with an established swim area in season. Two of the lodges have a lounge area with working fireplaces. There is an outdoor campfire area at our lean-to and access to 15 miles of hiking trails on state land.

Smoking policy: No
Smoking policies vary by facility. During all group events and activities, smoking is prohibited.

Bathroom: Bathrooms are shared and in the hall. Some have claw foot tubs instead of showers. Sagamore has a limited number of private baths available for an additional charge.

Additional nights before: $99 per person per night
Pre- or post-program overnights are possible, based on availability, and include dinner and breakfast. Must call in advance to arrange.

Check in time: 4:00 PM


Day One: Sunday, September 09 - Arrival, dinner, orientation 
Arrive To: Check in is between 4P and 6P at Great Camp Sagamore. Please note if you are coming from Albany that x23(Warrensburg) is an hour north of Albany. Please drive carefully. The last four miles into Sagamore are on a dirt road which is only marked at the beginning & end. After you cross our guest bridge, please turn left and come directly to the office in the conference building where you will register. Thank you.

Dinner: Dinner is at 6PM in the Dining Hall. You will select from a buffet.

Evening: Dinner is followed by announcements. Then please meet for evening introductions, orientation, schedule overview, and a short presentation on Sagamore's history, preservation, and programs. Then relax and retire. The goal of this program is to examine some of the many social, cultural and political scandals that have occurred in the Adirondack Park, especially those that followed the first great wave of tourists to the region; namely, the well-heeled urban industrialists and socialites who built what are now called Adirondack Great Camps. The introduction of these players into the wilderness of the Adirondacks changed the character of the region, and in many ways resulted in the introduction of scandalous events and tragedies into what had previously been a remote region, one largely detached and insulated from such urban problems.

Lodging: Great Camp Sagamore

Meals Included: Dinner
Type: Lodge

Description: Sagamore’s authentic buildings dating from 1897 are situated on a peninsula jutting into pristine and picturesque Sagamore Lake. The Adirondack Forest Preserve surrounds the entire 27-building Sagamore estate owned by the Alfred Vanderbilt family from 1901-1954. A National Historic Landmark, its wood and stone buildings are the vernacular rustic architecture on which many National Park lodges were modeled. Sagamore’s remote location removed from the normal hubbub will allow your full concentration on learning, the camaraderie of the people at hand, the extraordinary beauty of the land, and the history that envelops you.

Contact info:
Sagamore Road
Po Box 40
Raquette Lake, NY 13436 USA
phone: 315-354-5311
web: www.sagamore.org

Room amenities: All rooms are historic, and steps away from views of beautiful Sagamore lake or its bucolic outlet stream. We do not have telephones or televisions in any rooms. Internet access is available in our common Reading Room for those with laptop computers.

Facility amenities: As a guest at Sagamore, you will be accommodated in our historic buildings in (mostly) double occupancy rooms with twin beds and bathrooms, many with footed tubs, in the hallways. Most of our guests are housed in one of our three lodges each sleeping 20. There are no telephones in rooms, no cell service, and no TV so your relaxation is assured. Our chef will carefully prepare buffet meals from which you will make your selections. The buffet is served in our paneled dining room with splendid views of Sagamore Lake. Everyone is called to meals by the bell. One of the highlights of our dining experience is our excellent water. Please do not bring bottled water with you. You may purchase beer and wine to accompany your meal. The dining hall seats 84. During free time many of our guests enjoy our 20 miles of hiking trails, playing giant lawn games, and canoeing. Sagamore also recommends its history-based DVDs. Porch-sitting is also highly recommended. All guests are given a free pass to our award-winning guided tour. We also recommend a cruise aboard the W.W. Durant on Raquette Lake, a trip to the “Smithsonian of the Adirondacks,” the Adirondack Museum, or a visit to the Wild Center, the natural history museum of the Adirondack region. Great Camp Sagamore is located on Sagamore Lake, with an established swim area in season. Two of the lodges have a lounge area with working fireplaces. There is an outdoor campfire area at our lean-to and access to 15 miles of hiking trails on state land.

Smoking policy: No
Smoking policies vary by facility. During all group events and activities, smoking is prohibited.

Bathroom: Bathrooms are shared and in the hall. Some have claw foot tubs instead of showers. Sagamore has a limited number of private baths available for an additional charge.

Additional nights before: $99 per person per night
Pre- or post-program overnights are possible, based on availability, and include dinner and breakfast. Must call in advance to arrange.

Check in time: 4:00 PM


Day Two: Monday, September 10 - 2 Scallywags: Vanderbilt and Durant 
Note: Lectures, guided walk through 27 buildings

Breakfast: Breakfast is at 8AM in the Dining Hall.

Morning: After breakfast we will meet for an overview of Cornelius Vanderbilt, the man credited with taking us from a nation of barter to a nation of giant corporations. Called the Commodore and described since his youth as "hypermasculine" he used wars, the gold rush, and panics to his advantage. Steamships were his passion, but railroading became his life as the transportation revolution matured under his leadership. His home life is difficult to analyse. His role in Gibbons vs. Ogden gave the federal government power over state's rights. He challenged the 18th century attitude of deference and embraced the Jacksonian virtue of free competition. Was he a war profiteer or a war hero? Did he pave the way to the Gilded Age? Appointing his heir was not as easy as one might imagine and his death precipitated a battle in his family over his will which lasted for years. The bulk of his fortune eventually passed to Alfred Vanderbilt who purchased Sagamore as a 22-year-old. Following a generation behind Vanderbilt was Thomas C. Durant, the general manager of the Union Pacific Railroad and the man who moved us from the east to Promontory Point. The Union Pacific organized a construction company called Credit Mobilier to lay the track. Union Pacific's chief Washington agent, Representative Oakes Ames (R-Mass), distributed stock in Credit Mobilier to key members of Congress. Dr. Durant's son, William West Durant used his father's fortune to build elaborate camps to emulate the hunting and fishing camps of Europe. Among his clients were Collis P. Huntington, J.P. Morgan, and Vanderbilt, who "rescued" Sagamore through purchase just as William West was sinking to his knees in bankruptcy. All three camps are now National Historic Landmarks.

Lunch: Lunch is at noon in the Dining Hall

Afternoon: After lunch will will have a guided exploration of the 27 buildings of Great Camp Sagamore. This camp was purchased by the great-grandson of Commodore Vanderbilt after the son of Thomas C. Durant built it. The intertwining stories of these families share this common focal point.

Dinner: Dinner is at 6P in the Dining Hall.

Evening: We will see the A&E feature about the camps of Raquette Lake.

Lodging: Great Camp Sagamore

Meals Included: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Type: Lodge

Description: Sagamore’s authentic buildings dating from 1897 are situated on a peninsula jutting into pristine and picturesque Sagamore Lake. The Adirondack Forest Preserve surrounds the entire 27-building Sagamore estate owned by the Alfred Vanderbilt family from 1901-1954. A National Historic Landmark, its wood and stone buildings are the vernacular rustic architecture on which many National Park lodges were modeled. Sagamore’s remote location removed from the normal hubbub will allow your full concentration on learning, the camaraderie of the people at hand, the extraordinary beauty of the land, and the history that envelops you.

Contact info:
Sagamore Road
Po Box 40
Raquette Lake, NY 13436 USA
phone: 315-354-5311
web: www.sagamore.org

Room amenities: All rooms are historic, and steps away from views of beautiful Sagamore lake or its bucolic outlet stream. We do not have telephones or televisions in any rooms. Internet access is available in our common Reading Room for those with laptop computers.

Facility amenities: As a guest at Sagamore, you will be accommodated in our historic buildings in (mostly) double occupancy rooms with twin beds and bathrooms, many with footed tubs, in the hallways. Most of our guests are housed in one of our three lodges each sleeping 20. There are no telephones in rooms, no cell service, and no TV so your relaxation is assured. Our chef will carefully prepare buffet meals from which you will make your selections. The buffet is served in our paneled dining room with splendid views of Sagamore Lake. Everyone is called to meals by the bell. One of the highlights of our dining experience is our excellent water. Please do not bring bottled water with you. You may purchase beer and wine to accompany your meal. The dining hall seats 84. During free time many of our guests enjoy our 20 miles of hiking trails, playing giant lawn games, and canoeing. Sagamore also recommends its history-based DVDs. Porch-sitting is also highly recommended. All guests are given a free pass to our award-winning guided tour. We also recommend a cruise aboard the W.W. Durant on Raquette Lake, a trip to the “Smithsonian of the Adirondacks,” the Adirondack Museum, or a visit to the Wild Center, the natural history museum of the Adirondack region. Great Camp Sagamore is located on Sagamore Lake, with an established swim area in season. Two of the lodges have a lounge area with working fireplaces. There is an outdoor campfire area at our lean-to and access to 15 miles of hiking trails on state land.

Smoking policy: No
Smoking policies vary by facility. During all group events and activities, smoking is prohibited.

Bathroom: Bathrooms are shared and in the hall. Some have claw foot tubs instead of showers. Sagamore has a limited number of private baths available for an additional charge.

Additional nights before: $99 per person per night
Pre- or post-program overnights are possible, based on availability, and include dinner and breakfast. Must call in advance to arrange.

Check in time: 4:00 PM


Day Three: Tuesday, September 11 - The American Tragedy, a scandalous death or a miscarriage of justice... 
The American Tragedy, a scandalous death or a miscarriage of justice in the Adirondacks?

Note: Discussion/lecture, entertainment tonight

Breakfast: Breakfast is at 8AM in the Dining Hall.

Morning: The American Tragedy was the drowning of Grace Brown, a pregnant woman, who fell or was pushed from the boat that Chester Gillette was rowing on Big Moose Lake (a lake very close to Sagamore). Dreiser wrote the novel "American Tragedy" of the 1906 incident. It is hoped that everyone will have read the novel so that we can discuss it as a group.

Lunch: Lunch is at noon in the Dining Hall.

Afternoon: We will discuss some of the details of the trial that convicted Gillette and then see "A Place in the Sun" so that we might compare book and movie--and more importantly, share our views of whether or not justice was served.

Dinner: Dinner is at 6PM in the Dining Hall.

Evening: Tonight we will take a breather and be entertained by an Adirondack story teller.

Lodging: Great Camp Sagamore

Meals Included: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner
Day Four: Wednesday, September 12 - Vanderbilt scrapbooks: from scandal to hero. 
Breakfast: Breakfast is at 8AM in the Dining Hall.

Morning: A look into of the Vanderbilt scrapbooks. Alfred bought Sagamore when he was 22, before he was embroiled in a scandalous divorce from his first wife. Did he redeem himself on the Lusitania when he gave his life belt to a woman with a child and then tried to save other children? Before you depart we will review the lives of the men we have covered in the course to determine whether we have changed our own opinions of their lives.

Meals Included: Breakfast


Free Time Opportunities


Raquette Lake
Adirondack MuseumRegional museum of very high quality.
For additional information, visit: www.adkmuseum.org
Raquette Lake NavigationBoat Tour of Raquette Lake.
For additional information, visit: www.raquettelakenavigation.com

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